So now that the clock is ticking on digial cable, I ordered a Ceton card. I had heard about them months ago but the manufacturer kept a "Preorder" message on their page so I had been back-burnering it, as my 6 Hauppauge tuner cards in 2 PVR systems with GBPVR have been working just fine for me. I have now found out that the card was actually released back in April or May, but severely backordered due to component problems. Aparently only folks who ordered 5+ months ago are starting to get their cards, so it looks like I'll be in for a bit of a wait. So even ordering now, it could be months before I get my card. BOOOO!